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    Topic: Help establishing a running base.
Jim
CA
Member Since:
08/27/2005

Total Posts: 637
13.2 Months Ago

I entered this multi sport season with no running base and struggled.

Basically I am good for a 10k now, but longer distances are kicking my bu##. I set out on a 10 miler this last weekend, but just like my 1/2 ironman this year I hit a pain threshold that I could not tolerate at mile 8. It's the muscles and legiments around the knees. I am not winded at all, I just don't have the legs as they say.

My goal next year is to become real comfortable with 1/2 marathons as part of 1/2 Ironman competitions.

For 2009, I am hoping to build to a full ironman distance. So, a full marathon.

Questions:

Should I be shooting for a full marathon in 2008?

How should I build my base over the winer?

Should I consult a PT or some one for run technique due to the pain in the knees?

Any help is much appreciated...

Jim C 1.5

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Michelle
WA
Member Since:
06/20/2007

Total Posts: 36
13.2 Months Ago

Not qualified to answer your questions, but one suggestion would be to run as much as you can on soft surface trails instead of the pavement. I always try and do my long runs on the trail. I also wear a simple Ace knee brace on my weak knee that helps with support and tracking straight. I think deep water running is good too, if you can stand the boredom.

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Patrick
CA
Member Since:
08/28/2006

Total Posts: 67
13.2 Months Ago

Jim

When i did my marathon i got a PT and it helped a lot. If you want i can send you the training schedule. Your goal of a marathon in 08 should be fine. this winter should be all about long slowwwww runs. As far as your knees go lets talk next time we ride i my have a few things for you.

PK

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
The Great Pierre
CA
Member Since:
02/06/2006

Total Posts: 4
13.2 Months Ago

I agree with PK.

Long, S-L-O-W runs are better at helping your body adjust properly (metabolically and physiologically) and will eventually allow your body to run further faster.

On-On

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Jim
CA
Member Since:
08/27/2005

Total Posts: 637
13.2 Months Ago

Michelle -

What the heck is "deep water running"? I am OK with boredom, but isn't breathing an issue?? :oP

I totally agree with off road running, there is a nice 8 mile loop and they usually feel ok on it.

Pat - Yes, please share what you can next time we ride or earlier by e-mail. Oh and BTW, all my runs are slllloooooowwwww. ;o)

This year has been a big increase in training for me, I already surpassed my hours for the entire year in 2006, I am thinking that my leg muscles are pulling on my Patela (sp?) - or knee cap. I had this happen about 2 years ago, and stretching seemed to help, but this year it is a bit worse.

JC1.5

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Michelle
WA
Member Since:
06/20/2007

Total Posts: 36
13.2 Months Ago

Jim,

For deep water running, there are flotation vests to keep you off the bottom but since my pool is not that deep I use foam dumbells to hold me up. You then just simulate running. I will do intervals so I don't have to spend that much time at it. There are foam cuffs for your feet to make it more difficult. I have read where elite runners when injured have come back just as strong with doing only water running. I think its a good way to get in an extra run workout without the pounding. MC

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Jim
CA
Member Since:
08/27/2005

Total Posts: 637
13.1 Months Ago

Sweet - Thanks Michelle, never heard of that before.

Jim

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
paul
ca
Member Since:
03/05/2008

Total Posts: 40
7.6 Months Ago

you can train like a horse that way Jim.

     Re: Help establishing a running base.
Jim
CA
Member Since:
08/27/2005

Total Posts: 637
7.5 Months Ago

excellent - today I feel like a horse...

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